Dan is back to discuss how informed, intelligent Mormons can still believe and participate in Mormonism. Episode Show Notes: https://www.mormonstories.org/podcast/how-thoughtful-mormons-stay-dan-mcclellan-part-3/ ___________________ 00:00:43 How could someone intelligent still believe in the Mormon Church 00:03:47 Dan does not discuss his personal beliefs on social media 00:04:57 What we label as religion, side effects of human evolution 00:15:57 Deceased loved ones 00:18:55 Rituals 00:26:40 Predisposed to believe in Deity 00:36:00 Theodicy is the Problem of Evil 00:40:17 Intense suffering in the world 00:45:50 Anthropomorphic corporeal concept of God 00:56:50 Joseph Smith’s God is different from the Orthodox Mormon beliefs today 01:04:55 Did Joseph Smith believe in a trinitarian view? 01:09:00 The First Vision 01:23:30 Atheism and Agnosticism 01:36:20 Summarizing Dan’s part 2 of Dan’s understanding of the Bible 01:37:50 How do informed believing Mormons look at Jesus? Son of God? Resurrection? Etc? 01:43:25 People reduce it down to the truthfulness of the truth claims 01:49:30 All Mormonism is cafeteria Mormonism 01:59:30 Is there an ethical way to be part of this organization? 02:02:50 Prophets in the scriptures 02:10:30 Does the Church still have value? 02:20:10 Truth Claims in Mormonism 02:25:10 We are not being asked to prove anything, we are asked to have a testimony of things 02:30:50 Members who stay but don’t believe all of the truth claims 02:38:29 Comparing the Book of Mormon to the Bible in its accuracy 02:44:40 Viewing scriptures as informed, thoughtful readers, 02:47:30 A more valuable approach to the text 02:51:08 Joseph Smith’s behavior - treasure digging and folk magic, peep stone, etc. 02:57:10 Joseph Smith’s polygamy 03:06:00 Higher and Lower Priesthood 03:15:00 Major changes, innovations, changes, are unavoidable 03:26:00 Being a feminist in the Mormon Church 03:30:20 Where would a dividing line be? For the harm in the Mormon doctrine? 03:39:44 Reasons why people stay 04:02:40 Is there any evidence of Joseph Smith using psychedelics? At Mormon Stories we explore, celebrate, and challenge Mormon culture through in-depth stories told by members and former members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as well as scholars, authors, LDS apologists, and other professionals. Our overall mission is to: 1. Facilitate informed consent amongst LDS Church members, investigators, and non-members regarding Mormon history, doctrine, and theology 2. Support Mormons (and members of other high-demand religions) who are experiencing a religious faith crisis 3. Promote healing, growth and community for those who choose to leave the LDS Church or other high demand religions 🤝Help us continue to deliver quality content by becoming a donor today One-time or recurring donations: https://donorbox.org/mormon-stories?default_interval=m Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/mormonstories Venmo: https://account.venmo.com/u/mormonstories Paypal: https://paypal.me/mormonstories Our Platforms: 🌐Mormon Stories Blog: https://www.mormonstories.org/episodes 🎙️Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/mormonstories ✳️Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4sDzk7dRjODTSEqzZKZJzk?si=148b0efc1ccc4404&nd=1 🍎Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/mormon-stories-lds/id312094772 🖼️Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mormstories 📱TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@mormonstoriespodcast 🎮Discord: https://discord.com/invite/kuX5p6yyjF Contact us: 📧 MormonStories@gmail.com 📬PO Box 171085, Salt Lake City, UT 84117 #MormonStories #Mormon #lds