Ramit Sethi of I Will Teach You To Be Rich talks to Melissa and Taryn, a married couple in their 40s living in Los Angeles with five children. They have a net worth of over $700K, nearly half a million invested, and a successful business, but their finances are on the edge. After Taryn took a $75K pay cut, they continued building a $200K pool, took on a $100K family loan, and now face fixed costs of 179% since Taryn was recently laid off from Netflix. Ramit helps them confront the brutal math behind their situation, the emotional reasons they keep avoiding it, and the radical changes they may need to make before they run out of money. In this episode we uncover: • Why Melissa and Taryn built a $200K pool after a major pay cut • How Taryn’s Netflix layoff changed everything • Why their fixed costs hit a shocking 179% • The real cost of their $100K family loan • Why “everything goes on a credit card” became normal • How they ended up with $1.2M in debt • Why selling the house may not solve the problem • The hidden danger of renting another expensive home • Why Melissa’s successful business still may not be enough • How grief and loss shaped their relationship with travel and money • Why Taryn feels like she just “makes the money” • The emotional power dynamic behind their spending decisions • Why small cuts like subscriptions won’t fix a structural problem • Ramit’s warning that they may be setting themselves up to struggle again • The uncomfortable reality of moving out of Los Angeles • Why their marriage needs a mission, not just a budget • How their kids are already affected by their money choices • Ramit’s advice for making radical change before the clock runs out ⏩ CHAPTERS (00:00:00) “I just want the debt gone” (00:01:23) Meet Melissa and Taryn (00:02:40) Taryn’s Netflix layoff (00:04:18) Buying the house after a $75K pay cut (00:05:39) The real cost of the pool (00:07:48) Taking a $100K family loan (00:10:50) Why the debt cycle keeps repeating (00:15:25) Taryn’s role as the “money maker” (00:18:03) Their income no longer matches their life (00:20:03) Ramit reveals their 179% fixed costs (00:21:20) Why selling the house isn’t enough (00:22:51) The rent math gets even worse (00:26:46) The clock is ticking (00:31:25) Could they move to South Carolina? (00:41:24) The power dynamic in their marriage (00:57:16) Defining their Rich Life (01:02:18) What happens after selling the house? (01:15:28) Ramit confronts the decision they’re avoiding (01:28:48) Talking to their kids about money (01:36:58) Final thoughts and next steps 💡 RAMIT’S PODCAST NEWSLETTER • I share new ways to think about money every Saturday. Get the emails here: https://iwt.com/podcastnewsletter 🙌 GET HELP FROM RAMIT SETHI • Order my new book: Money for Couples: https://iwt.com/moneyforcouples • Take control of your money with the Conscious Spending Plan: https://iwt.com/csp • Optimize your credit cards with the 1st chapter of my book: https://iwt.com/chapter1-pod • Join my Money Coaching program for monthly help: https://iwt.com/moneycoaching • Listen to my book — now on Audible: https://amzn.to/48zko28 🤳 CONNECT WITH RAMIT SETHI • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ramit/ • X: https://twitter.com/ramit ✅ SUBSCRIBE SO YOU DON’T MISS ANY EPISODES https://youtube.com/user/ramitsethi/featured/ THIS EPISODE IS BROUGHT TO YOU BY Trust & Will | Protect what matters most in minutes at https://trustandwill.com/ramit and get 20% off ZocDoc | Go to https://zocdoc.com/ramit to find and instantly book a top-rated doctor today #sponsored Wispr Flow | Try Wispr Flow for free at wisprflow.ai/ramit Leesa | Go to https://leesa.com for 25% off mattresses PLUS get an extra $50 off with promo code RAMIT, exclusive for my listeners Apply to be coached for free on this podcast at https://iwt.com/apply