Many people ask how to stop thoughts. What's wrong with thoughts? They have their job to do. The whole point is not to change the mind but to transcend or go beyond it. There is physical rest and also spiritual rest. Meditation may enter ever more deeply the infinite potential of rest. Thanks to all our visitors who joined John for this chat in the Chakra Lounge. Producer: Phil Shankland InSight New Media Productions Ltd: https://insightnewmedia.co.uk Title design: Wendy Mayes Design https://www.wendymayes.co.uk Copyright: Spiritual Unfoldment Trust 2024 Those wanting more detailed accounts of John's life experience - the formative influences, which have taught and made him what he is, will find it in his 8 published books, available through the website: https://spiritualunfoldment.co.uk/store/. Did you know you can now listen to John on Spotify and other audio platforms? Here is his most popular recording 'Common sense guide to meditation' (1m views) - https://ffm.to/commonsenseguidetomeditation. FREE 86pp PDF 'Introducing Spiritual Unfoldment' With tempting extracts describing his life-long spiritual journey - in the hope they will encourage readers to go further, buy his books and read the whole story for themselves, we invite you to join John Butler's email community and receive a free 86-page PDF 'Introducing Spiritual Unfoldment'. Go to http://spiritualunfoldment.co.uk and scroll to the bottom of any page. Those who wish to support the Work of the Spiritual Unfoldment Trust can donate here - https://www.paypal.com/donate/?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=BBAWMHB4JQMKY Find out more about the the Spiritual Unfoldment Trust: https://spiritualunfoldment.co.uk/charitable-trust/ Disclaimer: https://spiritualunfoldment.co.uk/disclaimer/