Subscribe to Throwing Fits on Patreon. Our interview with Dao-Yi Chow and Maxwell Osborne can only mean one thing: We are so back. Dao-Yi and Maxwell—the co-founders and designers of Public School New York—have quite the story to tell, starting with what was exactly going through their minds as they stood on the precipice of their big comeback, living in the present, in the past they might’ve moved too fast and pandered a bit, Thom Browne’s advice, 2026’s luxury pivot, designing with fabric and textile first, how they negotiate ideas amongst themselves, seeing yourself in other great duos throughout history, cleaning house and getting back to your roots, it was always not if but when, it’s NYC afterall it’s not easy, finding a healthy balance between DTC and wholesale, it’s not just about the product anymore, are you the messenger or the message, and much more on Dao-Yi and Maxwell Osborne's interview with The Only Podcast That Matters™.