Happy New Year, folks! We’re kicking 2025 off with the very funny Jay Jurden! Jay and Caleb talk everything from church being cool again, being from red states, Matchbox Twenty, the Buckle challenge, a magical encounter at a BBQ restaurant in KC, and much more! Join our Patreon for an exclusive extended interview with Jay and other bonus content! https://patreon.com/SoTruePodcast?utm_medium=unknown&utm_source=join_link&utm_campaign=creatorshare_creator&utm_content=copyLink Follow Jay! @jayjurden Follow the show! @sooootruepod Follow Caleb! @calebsaysthings Produced by Chance Nichols @chanceisloud There’s nothing dry about Athletic Brewing Co. non-alcoholic brews. Give it a try and head to https://www.Athleticbrewing.com/SOTRUE to find it near you! Cancel your unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster with Rocket Money. Go to https://www.rocketmoney.com/SOTRUE today. Go to https://www.Zocdoc.com/SOTRUE to find and instantly book a top-rated doctor today. About Headgum: Headgum is an LA & NY-based podcast network creating premium podcasts with the funniest, most engaging voices in comedy to achieve one goal: Making our audience and ourselves laugh. Listen to our shows at https://www.headgum.com. » SUBSCRIBE to Headgum: https://www.youtube.com/c/HeadGum?sub_confirmation=1 » FOLLOW us on Twitter: http://twitter.com/headgum » FOLLOW us on Instagram: https://instagram.com/headgum/ » FOLLOW us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@headgum So True is a Headgum podcast, created and hosted by Caleb Hearon. The show is produced by Chance Nichols with Associate Producer Allie Kahan and Executive Producer Emma Foley. So True is engineered by Casey Donahue and engineered and edited by Nicole Lyons. Kaiti Moos is our VP of Content at Headgum. Thanks to Luke Rogers for our show art and Virginia Muller our social media manager.