92%ers welcome back to another episode of New Heights brought to you by our friends at Dunkin’! Today, Jason and Travis recap the Chiefs and Eagles draft classes, reveal why they secretly love the Browns’ Shadeur Sanders pick, and explain why “character concerns” are overrated. We’ve also got an incredible conversation with Hollywood icon Ben Affleck. We discuss why The Account hits home for Jason, how building a culture on a movie set is the same as in an NFL locker room, which Boston team is secretly his favorite, his life-changing experience of running routes for Tom Brady, why Ben is sick of Matt Damon’s abs, and more! Stick around until the end for a recap of Jason and Travis' time at the 8am Golf Tournament and our attempt to solve the “Gorilla Fight Debate.” For more Ben Affleck, check out The Accountant 2 - Watch Now on Prime. https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/B0DXKQSSL9/ref=atv_dp_share_cu_r For even more New Heights, check out our New Heights YouTube Membership! As a member, you'll get access to full episodes, bonus videos, badges, and other stuff that will make you stand out. You can also listen to new episodes early and ad-free on Wondery+. Join Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. . . . Download the full podcast here: Wondery: https://wondery.app.link/s9hHTgtXpMb Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/new-heights/id1643745036 Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/1y3SUbFMUSESC1N43tBleK?si=LsuQ4a5MRN6wGMcfVcuynw Follow New Heights on Social Media for all the best moments from the show: https://lnk.to/newheightshow Check out all of our new merch at https://homage.com/newheights From now until May 4th, we’re offering 25% off New Heights apparel, so it’s a perfect time to treat yourself. Go to homage.com/NewHeights and use the promo code “NewHeights25” Support the Show: AMERICAN EXPRESS: For full terms and to learn more about the powerful backing of American Express, visit https://americanexpress.com/withAmex REESE’S: Reese’s new PB&J cups. What’s your jam? Found wherever candy is sold! FARMER’S DOG: Get 50% off your first box of fresh, healthy food at https://TheFarmersDog.com/newheights. Plus, you get FREE shipping! ALL STATE: Checking first is smart. So, check https://Allstate.com first for a quote that could save you hundreds. ACCELERATOR: Click the link below to get a case of the Kelce Brothers’ favorite energy drink! https://www.amazon.com/stores/page/FB06B38E-F0C2-479F-9DA5-FD4A1C852B07?channel=NewHeights2025 PERPLEXITY: Discover fast and reliable search with Perplexity today. https://pplx.ai/new-heights DRAFT KINGS: Don’t miss out on all the action this week at DraftKings! Download the DraftKings app today! Sign-up using dkng.co/newheights or through my promo code NEWHEIGHTS. Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER.18+ (21+ in certain states) to open, own, or access an advance deposit wagering account and resident of state where DK Horse is available. Eligibility restrictions apply. Void where prohibited. Opt-in req. Min. $5wager. Only the first straight single horse win wager on the Kentucky Derby placed after opt-in is eligible.Wager must win to qualify for an equal share of $1,000,000.Reward issued in cash within 7 days of race completion via a click to claim, which expires 30 days (720 hours) after receipt. Unclaimed rewards will be forfeited. Ends at the closing of the final wagering pool for the Kentucky Derby on 5/3/25. Terms: www.dkhorse.com/bet/offers/details. Sponsored by DK Horse. Chapters: 00:00 - Intro 03:45 - Guest Announcement 05:40 - Chiefs Draft Recap 13:55 - Eagles Draft Recap 21:31 - Why We Love the Shadeur Pick 27:30 - “Character Concerns” 33:51 - Affleck Intro 36:05 - Jason’s Personal Accountant Connection 41:24 - Male Friendships 46:50 - Evaluating Athletes 50:55 - Building Culture 01:01:14 - Boston Fandom 01:11:05 - Refusing a Yankees Hat 01:13:10 - Running Routes for Tom Brady 01:17:51 - Matt Damon’s Abs 01:24:15 - Dunkin’ Super Bowl Commercial 01:28:20 - 8AM Golf in Vegas Recap 01:34:00 - The Gorilla Fight Debate #nfl #nfldraft #jasonkelce #traviskelce #newheights #benaffleck #theaccountant2 #chiefs #eagles #shadeursanders #clevelandbrowns #gorilla