Today we discuss several problematic "revelations" by LDS prophets that succeeded Joseph Smith.  These include: - John Taylor's 1886 revelation on the continuation of polygamy. - The multiple "manifestos" allegedly ending the practice of polygamy (but not really). - The lifting of the 1978 priesthood and temple ban against Mormons of African descent. - Changes to the LDS temple ceremony over the years. - Russell M. Nelson's condemnation of the use of the "Mormon" identity after Gordon B. Hinckley and Thomas S. Monson's strong support of the "Mormon" identity. - The 2015 LGBTQ Exclusion policy, and the subsequent 2019 reversal of the policy/doctrine. - The Mark Hofmann forgeries. LDS Discussion Essay: https://www.mormonstories.org/wp-admin/ldsdiscussions.com/revelations-after-joseph Episode Show Notes: https://www.mormonstories.org/podcast/revelation-after-joseph-ldsd-38/ LDS Discussions Series on Revelation in Mormonism: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLxq5opj6GqOACG_xU4IZiQxnhcoqlCrdI LDS Discussions Playlist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6p7gAxwsM_k&list=PLxq5opj6GqOB7J1n6pMmdUSezxcLfsced 00:00:00 Intro & recap 00:04:00 Prophetic fallibility beyond Joseph Smith in Church History 00:11:15 Wendy Nelson accidentally explains how “revelation” really works 00:15:30 Hesitance from subsequent prophets to take on the title of “prophet” 00:23:40 John Taylor’s 1886 Revelation on Polygamy 00:30:30 Implications of John Taylor’s 1886 Revelation on Polygamy 00:35:00 The Lifting of the Priesthood Ban 00:39:00 How the Lifting of the Priesthood Ban Happened 00:46:15 Takeaways from the Lifting of the Priesthood Ban and Revelation 00:54:30 Masonry background 01:00:15 Implications of Changes to the Temple Ceremony 01:03:30 Russel M Nelson and the Use of ‘Mormon’ 01:09:15 GBH vs Nelson clip 01:17:45 The Mormon Church’s “I’m a Mormon” Campaign 01:24:30 The “Meet the Mormons” campaign 01:32:00 The 2015 “Policy of Exclusion” for LGBT members and their kids 01:44:00 Clip-How Russel Nelson Described the 2015 on LGBT Members 01:51:45 Compare Nelson’s 2016 Statement to the 2019 Reversal 01:56:30 A Picture is Worth a Thousand Words… 02:05:00 Lack of Discernment Among Mormon Prophets, Seers, and Revelators 02:07:15 Joseph Smith & the Kinderhook Plates 02:10:15 The Mark Hofmann Forgeries 02:13:30 What the Hofmann Episode Tells Us About Discernment 02:19:45 A Picture is Worth a Thousand Words… Again 02:22:00 The Watering Down of Revelation 02:31:45 Fly Me to The Moon 02:34:00 This is Certainly Not Joseph Smith’s Idea of Revelation Anymore 02:36:15 Revisiting Wendy’s quote LDS Discussions Full Playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLxq5opj6GqOB7J1n6pMmdUSezxcLfsced ABOUT US: Mormon Stories Podcast is the longest-running and most successful podcast in Mormonism - hosted by Dr. John Dehlin. At Mormon Stories we explore, celebrate, and challenge Mormon culture through in-depth stories told by members and former members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. We also occasionally interview scholars, authors, LDS apologists, and other professionals. Our overall mission is to: 1) Facilitate informed consent amongst LDS Church members, investigators, and non-members regarding Mormon history, doctrine, and theology, 2) Support Mormons (and members of other high-demand religions) who are experiencing a religious faith crisis, and 3) Promote healing, growth and community for those who choose to leave the LDS Church or other high demand religions. Mormon Stories Podcast is a product of the Open Stories Foundation - a 501c3 non-profit dedicated to supporting Mormons in religious transition. Help us continue to deliver quality content by becoming a donor today: One-time or recurring donations: https://donorbox.org/mormon-stories?default_interval=m Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/mormonstories Our Platforms: Mormon Stories Blog: https://www.mormonstories.org/episodes Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/mormonstories Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4sDzk7dRjODTSEqzZKZJzk?si=148b0efc1ccc4404 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/mormon-stories-lds/id312094772 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mormstories TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@mormonstoriespodcast Discord: https://discord.com/invite/kuX5p6yyjF Contact us: MormonStories@gmail.com PO Box 171085, Salt Lake City, UT 84117 #MormonStories