Subscribe to UnHerd today at: http://unherd.com/join A recent essay by Director of Research at The American Ideas Institute Dr. Sumantra Maitra on a ‘dormant NATO’ recently made waves with foreign policy experts. These influential figures could end up in office should Trump win the 2024 election, so it’s worth asking: is NATO winding down? Dr. Maitra joins UnHerd to discuss the possibility of a revolutionised security state, with UnHerd writer Aris Roussinos. Follow UnHerd on social media: Twitter: https://twitter.com/unherd Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/unherd/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/unherd/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@unherdtv #UnHerd #NATO #trump