Greg Brockman is the co-founder of OpenAI. This is the most detailed first-person account he has given of the 72 hours after Sam Altman was fired, how OpenAI started, and the future. Greg explains how the original Napa offsite produced the three-step technical plan OpenAI has followed for more than a decade and the real reason OpenAI had to abandon its pure nonprofit structure. He then gives the most detailed account ever of what happened in the hours after the Sam Altman firing, why he and nearly every OpenAI employee quit, and how his relationship with Ilya Sutskever changed. After that we look to the future of ChatGPT and the race to AGI. We talk about how they are using AI at OpenAI, why ChatGPT stopped showing reasoning traces, how to decide who gets compute, and of course Anthropic/Claude. Then we get to the question on everyone's mind: What is going to happen to your job? Episode page and full show notes: https://fs.blog/knowledge-project-podcast/greg-brockman/ ------ Thank you to the sponsors for this episode: +CoinShares: Delivering Reason to Digital Asset Investing. ⁠⁠https://coinshares.com/⁠⁠ +Granola AI, The AI notepad for people in back-to-back meetings: ⁠https://www.granola.ai/shane⁠ Check out the ⁠Granola Notes.: https://notes.granola.ai/t/2c35c84f-6eb4-497a-8419-294d92141721-009c2hma +HeyGen is a message-first AI video platform that helps people and AI agents turn ideas into professional video in minutes. Try for free at ⁠https://www.heygen.com/⁠tkp +LMNT: My go-to zero sugar electrolytes — get a free LMNT Sample Pack here: DrinkLMNT.com/TKP *Greg Brockman* LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/thegdb/⁠ Blog: ⁠https://blog.gregbrockman.com/⁠ *Shane Parrish* Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/farnamstreet/ X: https://x.com/ShaneParrish LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shane-parrish-050a2183/ Books: https://fs.blog/books/ Website: https://fs.blog/ Newsletter: http://fs.blog/newsletter *The Knowledge Project* is a show featuring in-depth conversations with the top CEOs, investors, and business leaders to uncover the timeless principles that drive success. Learn more at https://fs.blog/podcast #ai #technology