Support The Glenn Show at https://glennloury.substack.com PREORDER Glenn's memoir, LATE ADMISSIONS: CONFESSIONS OF A BLACK CONSERVATIVE. Available here or wherever you get your books: https://wwnorton.com/books/9780393881349 0:00 The charges Amy faces at Penn 4:08 Glenn: I’ve said some of things that have gotten Amy in trouble myself 10:04 Amy: “You might as well erase the 'veritas' from [Penn’s] mission statement” 18:18 What’s really at issue in the Amy Wax indictment 24:06 Amy’s race realist rebuttal to DEI 34:43 Isn’t there room for some efforts toward proportional representation? 43:46 When IQ differences matter and when they don’t Glenn Loury (Brown University, Manhattan Institute) and Amy Wax (Penn Law). Recorded March 20, 2024.

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