What happened on a ridiculous midnight phone call between Donald Trump and the Governor of California? Why does Gavin Newsom believe the President will be crushed in the mid-terms? What is Newsom’s tactic for trolling Trump? Will Newsom run for president in 2028? Alastair and Rory are joined by Gavin Newsom, Governor of California, to answer all of this and more. ------------------------------------------------- Search IG.com to find out more and/or Look for IG in your app store. ------------------------------------------------- Social Producer: Emma Jackson Video Editor: Lorcan Moullier Producer: Alice Horrell Senior Producer: Nicole Maslen Head of Politics: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport