In this interview, John sits down with Conservative MP Danny Kruger at the recent ARC conference to discuss his role in the rise of 'New Conservatism'. Danny argues that over time the UK government has drifted away from the will of the people, eroding traditional values and focusing on global over domestic interests. This shift has provided an opportunity for conservatives to unite the country, appealing to basic traditional values people still possess, even in typically safe labor seats. This change was most evident in the Brexit referendum of 2016 and the election of Boris Johnson in 2019. Kruger argues that this 'New Conservatism' is not a matter of changing values, but rather returning to the values that the public never gave up, such as family, national sovereignty, and patriotism. Danny Kruger has represented the seat of Devizes since his election in 2019. He serves as the co-chair of the New Conservatives group, formed in the wake of the Brexit referendum. This group aims to realign British politics with the views, values, and interests of the British people. Danny is also the author of several books, including: 'On Fraternity' (2007) and his latest publication, 'Covenant: The New Politics of Home, Neighborhood, and Nation' (2023). -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 00:00 Intro 00:14 Introducing Danny Kruger 01:00 New Conservatism 4:40 Labour seats turning conservative 7:00 How elites betray the masses 11:30 Welfare vs Agency 16:25 To reengage the population, we must start listening 18:30 The best argument for Brexit 20:55 What is the cause of growing social dysfunction 20:30 How should migration look? 29:35 A good nationalism? 34:14 Rabbi Jonathan Sacks -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Conversations feature John Anderson, former Deputy Prime Minister of Australia, interviewing the world's foremost thought leaders about today's pressing social, cultural and political issues. John believes proper, robust dialogue is necessary if we are to maintain our social strength and cohesion. As he puts it; "You cannot get good public policy out of a bad public debate." If you value this discussion and want to see more like it, make sure you subscribe to the channel here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtnYSEGViOnb7k8ezUaWUww?sub_confirmation=1 And stay right up to date with all the conversations by subscribing to the newsletter here: https://johnanderson.net.au/contact/ Follow John on Twitter: https://twitter.com/JohnAndersonAC Follow John on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/johnandersonac Follow John on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/johnandersonac/ Support the channel: https://johnanderson.net.au/support/ Website: https://johnanderson.net.au/ Podcast: https://johnanderson.net.au/podcasts/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- https://twitter.com/danny__kruger