Robert Martin (aka Uncle Bob) is a programming pioneer and bestselling author of Clean Code. We discuss the prospect of automating programming, spotting and developing coding talent, occupational licensing, quotas, and the elusive sense of style. Episode website + Transcript: https://www.dwarkeshpatel.com/p/uncle-bob Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3wI8rGr Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3pVcr2H Follow me on Twitter to be notified of future content: https://twitter.com/dwarkesh_sp Listen to Robert's fascinating talk on the future of programming: https://youtu.be/ecIWPzGEbFc Read Robert's blog about programming: http://blog.cleancoder.com/ Buy Robert's books on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/kindle-dbs/entity/author/B000APG87E