Is there really a shadow government, and what is it? Zachary Treitz and Christian Hansen, two incredible journalists, join us today to discuss the workings behind a shadow government. We’ll discuss how the investigation came about that led to their Octopus series on Netflix, Ghislaine Maxwell’s father, the unsolved death of Danny Casolaro, the cover-up of the murder, and other interesting topics. WELCOME TO CAMP! 🏕️ Shoutout to our sponsors: Odoo, Morgan & Morgan, and BlueChew Try Odoo with a 14-day free trial at: http://Odoo.com/CAMP 👕🧢 GET YOUR CAMP DRIP HERE: http://camp-rd.com 🏕️ Get Today In History Email Here (Free): https://camp.beehiiv.com/ 🎟️ 🎫 Comedy Tour Tickets Here: https://markgagnonlive.com/ Make Sure to Follow ​⁠@History-Camp Timestamps 0:00 Intro 1:08 Meet Zach and Christian 3:18 Beginning The Investigation 9:54 The Iran Contra Affair 22:22 Accusations of Being a Limited Hangout 28:00 Ghislaine Maxwell's Father 38:27 Ari-Ben Menashe 50:22 The Unsolved Death of Danny Casolaro 57:30 Suspects of The Murder 1:02:10 Are Hitmen Real? 1:06:25 Covering Up The Murder 1:10:15 Feeling Threatened While Investigating 1:20:38 New Evidence + Gerald Bull’s Supergun 1:37:04 Spin Off Series? + The Death of Jolly West