What happens when secular seekers borrow from religion—and do it wrong? In this deep conversation, religious ethicist and author Liz Bucar (Liz Bucar) joins Britt and Bill to explore the ethics of spiritual practices, from yoga to psychedelics to mindfulness. Drawing on insights from her acclaimed books Stealing My Religion and Beyond Wellness, Bucar challenges us to examine how we engage with sacred traditions, why appropriation causes harm, and how understanding religious roots can make spiritual practices more meaningful. We also discuss cultural appropriation, ethical psychedelics, the evolution of yoga, and how modern wellness culture often strips away the deeper ethical frameworks that once gave these practices purpose. If you’ve ever asked, “How can I be spiritual without being religious?”—this is your essential guide to doing it responsibly. Resources: No Nonsense Spirituality: All the Tools No Belief Required: https://bit.ly/NNSBook What Is The Void: https://bit.ly/TheVoidyt Religious Deconstruction: https://bit.ly/RELDecon All My Available Courses: https://bit.ly/NNSCourses Video Chapters: 00:00:00 Introduction 00:02:41 Who is Liz Bucar and how she became a religious ethicist 00:04:13 Why Liz wrote Beyond Wellness 00:07:01 What modern wellness culture gets wrong 00:12:22 When spirituality becomes moral pressure 00:16:45 Stealing from religion ethically 00:22:38 What secular people often miss after deconstruction 00:30:14 Yoga, embodiment, and deeper spiritual practice 00:38:52 Psychedelics, meaning-making, and ethical use 00:49:41 Authority, experience, and who gets to decide truth 01:00:27 Why humans still crave ritual and transcendence 01:10:36 Advice for those intellectually out but emotionally tethered 01:17:39 Reflections on Beyond Wellness and modern spirituality 01:19:26 Britt & Bill reflect on Liz’s insights #ReligionAndSpirituality #WellnessCulture #LizBucar #BeyondWellness About Me: Britt Hartley is a certified atheist spiritual director with a Master’s in Theology focusing on the future of American religion. She wrote the bestselling book *No Nonsense Spirituality: All the Tools, No Faith Required*. If you’re struggling with existential crises, nihilism, or feeling lost in meaninglessness. On this channel you'll find weekly videos where Britt provides practical, science-based tools to help you navigate the void. Instead of relying on old gods or New Age trends, she offers clear, actionable advice for finding your way through the deep, challenging questions of life.