
🔗 Click the following link to learn more about Philip Morris International’s progress: https://bit.ly/4qEi16d 📰 Subscribe to UnHerd today at: https://bit.ly/4cfaeH0 UnHerd's Freddie Sayers sits down with Edward Luttwak and Arta Moeini to discuss the US-Israel war with Iran. Watch it on the UnHerd website: https://unherd.com/watch-listen/what-happens-next-inside-iran/ Listen to the podcast: https://plnk.to/unherd?to=page Advertise on UnHerd @ zoe.white@unherd.com UnHerd's Freddie Sayers hosts a debate on the internal future of Iran featuring two clashing geopolitical perspectives: Professor Edward Luttwak - a strategist and expert on international diplomacy, who argues that the Trump administration is successfully pursuing a strategy to achieve regime change via surgical airstrikes; and Dr Arta Moeini - international political theorist and a realist thinker, who warns that the West is dangerously underestimating the resilience of Iran’s decentralised "total state”, and that direct attacks could fuel a civil war that accelerates a global shift toward a new world order dominated by China. Follow UnHerd on social media: Twitter: https://twitter.com/unherd Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/unherd/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/unherd/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@unherdtv //TIMECODES// 00:00 - 00:23 - Intro00:23 - 01:45 - Setting up the Iran question 01:45 - 02:27 - Edward Luttwak 02:27 - 02:41 - Sponsor: Philip Morris International 02:41 - 04:03 - U.S. regime change without troops 04:03 - 07:07 - Pezeshkian: Azeri president and mandate 07:07 - 09:03 - Guards, nukes, and diverted resources 09:03 - 13:18 - Mojtaba and the succession problem 13:18 - 19:07 - Azeris, protests, and protecting the president 19:07 - 23:00 - Luttwak’s best and worst outcomes 23:00 - 23:27 - Arta Moeini 23:27 - 27:15 - What happens next? 27:15 - 30:17 - Reformists vs hardliners 30:17 - 35:14 - Martyrdom and turn to the East 35:14 - 37:50 - Asymmetric missile strategy 37:50 - 40:07 - Civil war risk and Iran’s weight 40:07 - 44:27 - Moeini’s least-bad and worst case #UnHerd #Iran #Israel

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