Join Jocko Underground: https://www.jockounderground.com/subscribe Kopelman began his military career in the US Navy in 1985, training to become a Naval Aviator, and then transferred to the Marine Corps in 1992, where he continued to fly before becoming a forward air controller and earning his gold naval parachutist wings. His last assignment was as the Deputy Director for advisor training at Camp Pendleton. Join the conversation on Twitter/Instagram: @jockowillink @echocharles