Are gold, copper and other commodities becoming a longer-term portfolio decision rather than a short-term trade? In this Australian Investors Podcast conversation, Owen Rask sits down with Justin Lin of Global X to explore the idea of currency debasement, fractured supply chains and the case investors are making for hard assets. Justin separates two arguments often bundled together under ‘debasement’: concern about the purchasing power of currencies, and a desire by some countries to reduce reliance on the US dollar. He explains why investors have looked at gold, infrastructure and industrial metals through those lenses—while Owen presses him on what can actually be measured, rather than simply repeated as a market narrative. Copper provides a practical example. Justin argues that trade policy, inventory moving between markets and changing demand can matter as much as the headline about AI data centres. The pair also discuss energy security and the difficulty of securing critical minerals when production and processing are concentrated in a few places. Owen asks what those shifts could mean for a diversified portfolio. The conversation then turns to portfolio construction: what role might a broad commodities fund play alongside shares and bonds, and how does exposure through commodity futures differ from owning physical assets? Justin describes the Global X BCOM ETF and its range of underlying markets, from metals and energy to agricultural products. Finally, Owen makes him choose between gold and Bitcoin over a five-year horizon. Justin makes the case for gold, while acknowledging that neither outcome is certain. Listen for the framework, the trade-offs and the questions worth asking—not a prediction you must follow. *Chapters* *Episode resources* - Speak with the Rask Advice team: https://rask.com.au/advice - Ask a question (select the Investors podcast): https://bit.ly/R-quest *Show partner resources* - ETF investor? Go beyond ordinary with Global X: View all funds https://www.globalxetfs.com.au - Join Pearler using the code "RASKSWITCH" and get $32 of Pearler Credit: https://bit.ly/Pearler - Whatever comes next for your business, power it with Stripe: https://stripe.com *Rask resources* - All services: https://bit.ly/R-services - Financial Planning: https://bit.ly/R-plan - Invest with us: https://bit.ly/R-invest - Access Show Notes: https://bit.ly/R-notes - Ask a question: https://bit.ly/R-quest - We love feedback! https://raskau.typeform.com/to/ZbfHy6IP *Follow us on social media* - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/rask.invest - TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@rask.invest *Disclaimer* The information in this episode is provided by The Rask Group Pty Ltd and contains general financial product advice only. It does not take into account your objectives, financial situation or needs. Before acting, consider whether the information is appropriate for you and consider seeking personal advice from a licensed financial adviser. You can read our Financial Services Guide at www.rask.com.au/fsg. If a financial product is mentioned, consider the relevant PDS and TMD, where applicable, before making any financial decision. Past performance is not a reliable indicator of future performance. Returns are not guaranteed and capital may be at risk. The Rask Group Pty Ltd is a Corporate Authorised Representative No. 1280930 of Rask Licensing Pty Ltd, AFSL 563 907.