I’ve hinted at this before, but in my new book, The Meaning of Your Life (https://www.arthurbrooks.com/books/the-meaning-of-your-life), I explore where meaning actually comes from—one place, for example, is by serving others with our time and treasure. However, you certainly won’t find it in the worldly idols we so often chase. This all brings us to today’s topic—money. Most people assume that having more money will make them happier. The research suggests something more subtle. What matters is not how much money you have, but how you use it. In this episode of Office Hours, I am joined by Dave Ramsey, one of the most influential voices in personal finance, whose work has helped millions of people change their relationship with money. Dave shares his own journey from early financial success to bankruptcy and back, and how his faith shapes his thinking about debt, discipline, and financial peace. *Where to find Dave Ramsey:* • X: https://x.com/daveramsey • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ramsey-dave • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/daveramsey • Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/daveramsey • Website: https://www.ramseysolutions.com *Where to find Arthur Brooks:* • Website: https://arthurbrooks.com/ • Newsletter: https://www.arthurbrooks.com/newsletter • X: https://x.com/arthurbrooks • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/arthurcbrooks/ • Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ArthurBrooks/ • YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGuyFRjJQFGCKzfHTBvWM6A • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/arthur-c-brooks/ • Email: officehours@arthurbrooks.com *Timestamps:* *Referenced:* • The Meaning of Your Life: Finding Purpose in an Age of Emptiness: https://www.amazon.com/Meaning-Your-Life-Finding-Emptiness/dp/0593545427 • The Happiness Scale: https://learn.arthurbrooks.com/the-happiness-scale • Good credit, bad credit: The differential role of the sources of debt in life satisfaction: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/joca.12388 • Financial Peace: https://www.amazon.com/Financial-Peace-Dave-Ramsey/dp/0963571206 • What Is the Law of Diminishing Marginal Utility?: https://www.investopedia.com/terms/l/lawofdiminishingutility.asp • Why You’re Better Off Not Borrowing: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2024/02/debt-borrowing-happiness/677303 • How your bank balance buys happiness: The importance of “cash on hand” to life satisfaction: https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2016-17475-001 • ...References continued at: ⁠https://www.arthurbrooks.com/office-hours Production and marketing by ⁠https://penname.co/