Meet with PWL Capital: https://pages.pwlcapital.com/en-ca/contact-us?utm_source=content&utm_medium=youtube&utm_campaign=rationalreminder_yt Avoid Online Scams https://pwlcapital.com/stay-safe-online/ Ben Felix or any PWL employee will never reach out to you on social media platforms or WhatsApp to give financial advice. These are scammers trying to commit fraud. In this special episode, we are joined by Mike Sullivan, Co-Founder and Chief Growth Officer at OneDigital, and Vinay Gidwaney, OneDigital’s Chief Product Officer, to discuss their new book, Workforce Intelligence: The People-First Playbook for Leading Your Company Through AI Transformation. Together, they offer a practical, pro-human framework for navigating a future where artificial intelligence becomes deeply embedded in how organizations operate. We explore why leaders should focus on tasks rather than headcount, how AI can amplify uniquely human capabilities, and why companies may need to rethink how they manage their workforce. Mike and Vinay explain their concepts of reducible and irreducible skills, AI coworkers, workforce intelligence, collaborative AI use, and the importance of building an organizational intelligence layer. They also share practical lessons from OneDigital’s own AI transformation—including why leadership activation, trust, reskilling, and a partnership between technical and non-technical leaders are essential. This conversation offers an alternative to the prevailing narrative of AI-driven job elimination. Instead, it asks a bigger question: if AI can take on more of the work we currently do, what might humans become capable of doing next? Workforce Intelligence: https://www.onedigital.com/en-US/workforce-intelligence/?utm_source=PWL&utm_medium=Podcast&utm_campaign=WI Timestamps: 0:00:00 Episode Preview 0:00:24 Intro 0:07:17 How Mike and Vinay's working relationship has evolved over time 0:08:47 What strengths each brings to OneDigital's AI landscape 0:10:32 Describing the "radiating red dot" 0:12:47 The decisions or goals that emerged from that exercise 0:19:41 What their first experience with an AI coworker taught them 0:21:00 The key differences between human and artificial intelligence 0:25:12 If Mike and Vinay still worry about massive workforce decline due to AI 0:31:34 What "Human Capital Management" is to Mike 0:35:35 Why a framework for managing the relationship between humans and AI is needed 0:37:59 Reducable vs irreducable skills for a Wealth Manager 0:44:32 Describing the WI Score 0:46:58 How to read/interpret the WI Score 0:59:57 What the Charlotte-Denver redundancy taught them 1:03:35 Describing the "Five Tier Fluency Model" 1:07:22 Why AI coworkers have faces and profiles 1:10:52 How Mike and Vinay's belief systems guide decision making 1:19:26 The word Mike and Vinay now use every day 1:20:59 The Four Questions for Monday morning 1:26:41 What we still do not know 1:30:28 Disclaimer Links From Today’s Episode: Rational Reminder on iTunes — https://itunes.apple.com/ca/podcast/the-rational-reminder-podcast/id1426530582. Rational Reminder on Instagram — https://www.instagram.com/rationalreminder/ Rational Reminder on YouTube — https://www.youtube.com/channel/ Benjamin Felix — https://pwlcapital.com/our-team/ Benjamin on X — https://x.com/benjaminfelix Benjamin on LinkedIn — https://www.linkedin.com/in/benjaminwfelix/