This conversation follows a simple insistence: if physics describes the world, it should also describe what is physically moving. Dr. Robert Close lays out a material, elastic picture of reality where quantum spin, torsion, and angular momentum emerge from deformations of an elastic substrate. Light, charge, and gravity follow as natural consequences. Rather than treating equations as final answers, the discussion asks what atomic-scale landscape could make those equations true. It’s an attempt to return physics to mechanism, material, and the courage to hypothesize on what the math and experiments actually mean. PATREON https://www.patreon.com/c/demystifysci PARADOX LOST PRE-SALE: https://buy.stripe.com/7sY7sKdoN5d29eUdYddEs0b HOMEBREW MUSIC - Check out our new album! Hard Copies (Vinyl): FREE SHIPPING https://demystifysci-shop.fourthwall.com/products/vinyl-lp-secretary-of-nature-everything-is-so-good-here Streaming: https://secretaryofnature.bandcamp.com/album/everything-is-so-good-here PARADIGM DRIFT https://demystifysci.com/paradigm-drift-show ROBERT CLOSE'S WEBSITE: https://classicalmatter.org/ #physics, #howthingswork, #light, #gravity, #quantum, #energy, #waves, #space, #understanding, #thinking , #discovery, #longform, #podcast #physicspodcast, #philosophypodcast MERCH: Rock some DemystifySci gear : https://demystifysci-shop.fourthwall.com/ AMAZON: Do your shopping through this link: https://amzn.to/3YyoT98 DONATE: https://bit.ly/3wkPqaD SUBSTACK: https://substack.com/@UCqV4_7i9h1_V7hY48eZZSLw@demystifysci RSS: https://anchor.fm/s/2be66934/podcast/rss MAILING LIST: https://bit.ly/3v3kz2S SOCIAL: - Discord: https://discord.gg/MJzKT8CQub - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/DemystifySci - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/DemystifySci/ - Twitter: https://twitter.com/DemystifySci MUSIC: -Shilo Delay: https://g.co/kgs/oty671