Pamela Jones was born in Los Molinos, Mexico to members of the Church of the Firstborn of the Fullness of Times, a fundamentalist, misogynistic cult. She was the 11th of her abus*ve father’s 57 biological chiIdren and 2nd of her mother’s thirteen chiIdren and it was from that moment on that Pamela held one single belief: She existed for one reason and one reason only, to be her eventual husband’s handmaid and to bear him as many chiIdren as possible. Fast forward to age 10, Pamela was forced out of school to help her mom care for her 12 children, giving her nothing more than a fifth-grade education. At age 15, Pamela married David Lebaron, the grandson of cult founder Alma Dayer LeBaron Jr. and was pregnant 17 times in 18 years. After 9 childbirths and 8 miscarriages, Pamela felt she had enough chiIdren to make it to heaven, a fundamentalist belief. One day, she awoke her nine chiIdren to escape the neglect and ab*se from her husband, and make their way to the United States to start a new life. Watch part 2 of Pamela’s interview: https://youtu.be/nvK5L8Qsrcs?si=b_k3JYRCCg01S_qx Watch part 3 with Pamela and her daugters: https://www.youtube.com/live/f64zDdzpRJ4?si=7oz4jMFtrzHBV8AD Find Pamela! Pamela’s website: www.Pamelaspeaks.live Pamela’s book: The Dirt Beneath Our Door https://www.pamelaspeaks.live/book Pamela’s Podcast: Wicked Confessions Uncensored https://www.wickedconfessionsuncensored.com/ We want to meet you in real life! Come adventure with us on our 2nd C2C VACATION! Click here to go to the official booking page: https://trovatrip.com/trip/north-america/mexico/mexico-with-shelise-sola-oct-2025 Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! https://www.youtube.com/@CultstoConsciousnessClips Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! https://cults-to-consciousness-shop.fourthwall.com/en-usd Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness https://www.instagram.com/cultstoconsciousness Host Instagram @sheliseann https://www.instagram.com/sheliseann/ Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_ https://www.instagram.com/jonathan.rosales_ TikTok @cults.to.consciousness https://www.tiktok.com/@cults.to.consciousness Twitter @cultstocon https://twitter.com/cultstocon Chapter Marks 00:00:00 Intro 00:10:31 CW: Murd*r, Pamela Explains the Practices of Blood Atonement and How it Impacted Her ChiIdhood 00:15:08 Pamela Talks about the Raid on Los Molinos & Her Role of a Mother from an Early Age 00:22:15 CW: CA, The Ways Pamela’s Father Controlled and Ab*sed Her 00:28:14 Pamela Shares More About Her Father 00:33:58 Pamela’s Father’s Reaction to Her Meeting Her Husband 00:39:30 How Quickly Pamela’s Husband Changed on Her 00:43:44 Pamela’s Husband's Actions and Infidelity 00:49:09 How Pamela Was Treated as a Polygamous Wife 00:54:16 Pamela Makes Plans to Leave Her Husband and the Cult 01:02:30 CW: Mentions of R*pe, Pamela’s Father Supports Her Against Her Husband 01:09:48 Pamela’s Escape Story 01:18:12 Pamela’s Experiences After Leaving Mexico & The Fear that Gripped Her 01:26:01 Final Thoughts and Linda Listen **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.**