Support The Glenn Show at https://glennloury.substack.com Go to https://ground.news/glennshow to spot media bias and become a smarter news consumer. Subscribe through my link for 40% off unlimited access this month. Order Glenn's new book, "Self-Censorship," here or where you get your books: Amazon: https://tinyurl.com/683p6kk3 Barnes & Noble: https://tinyurl.com/4yvz4fta Bookshop: https://tinyurl.com/44rznxww 0:00 Happy 60th, John! 2:20 2020 in hindsight 12:05 Ground News ad 14:01 Are Glenn and John helping to shift the Overton window? 18:25 Is Charlie Kirk the George Floyd of the right? 29:53 Ezra Klein and Ta-Nehisi Coates’s conversation about Kirk 34:14 Glenn’s new book idea 41:43 Kirk’s comments on Michelle Obama, Ketanji Brown Jackson, and Joy Reid 48:05 The purging of the woke remnant 51:33 The responsibilities of the black intellectual 58:27 Glenn: There is meaning in blackness Glenn Loury (Brown University, Hoover Institution, Self-Censorship) and John McWhorter (Columbia, New York Times, Lexicon Valley). Recorded October 6, 2025.