Freddie Sayers sits down with Professor Martin Kulldorff. Read the article here: https://unherd.com/thepost/martin-kulldorff-lessons/ Listen to the podcast version: https://shows.acast.com/lockdowntv-with-freddie-sayers/martin-kulldorff-lessons-from-sweden-for-the-next-pandemic When the COVID-19 pandemic began and most of the world went into lockdown, Scandinavia bucked the status-quo by keeping their society almost completely open. At the time, there was a sense that Sweden, Denmark and Norway would pay a dire price for their decision. But looking back now, with all the data on Covid deaths at hand, it seems that their pandemic policy was a success. Why did rest of the world get it so wrong? Freddie Sayers sat down with Swedish biostatistician and co-author of the Great Barrington Declaration Martin Kulldorff at the Frontline Club, to discuss the lessons the world should take from Sweden’s pandemic legacy. Follow UnHerd on social media: Twitter: https://twitter.com/unherd Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/unherd/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/unherd/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@unherdtv // TIMECODES // 00:00 - 04:40 - Introduction 04:40 - 09:27 - Was Sweden’s approach to the pandemic a success or disaster? 09:27 - 16:19 - What did Sweden do right and wrong in its approach to COVID-19? 16:19 - 22:00 - What is Professor Martin Kulldorff’s view of the COVID vaccines? 22:00 - 29:41 - Whatever happened to herd immunity? 29:41 - 39:27 - How should we respond to a future pandemic? 39:27 - 49:02 - Were the vaccines a success or a failure? 49:02 - 55:29 - Is there a lesson we can learn from Sweden’s cooler COVID debate? 55:29 - 01:16:17 - Audience questions 01:16:17 - 01:19:06 - Concluding thoughts #UnHerd #MartinKullDorff #GreatBarringtonDeclaration