Dr. Michael Levin joins Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman to explore intelligence beyond the human brain, the hidden minds of cells and biological systems, the origins of genius and inspiration, and the possibility that intelligence and creativity may not be something we simply "make." They discuss bioelectricity, xenobots and anthrobots, consciousness, extraordinary abilities, the nature of genius, the Platonic space, and what these ideas could mean for biology, AI, and the future of science. About Michael Levin Michael Levin, Ph.D. is a Distinguished Professor of Biology and Vannevar Bush Professor at Tufts University, where he directs the Allen Discovery Center and the Tufts Center for Regenerative and Developmental Biology. His research explores bioelectricity, regeneration, collective intelligence, cognition, synthetic organisms, and how biological systems process information. Subscribe If you enjoyed this episode, subscribe to the show and follow along for more conversations about intelligence, consciousness, creativity, and the future of human potential.