Richard Clarke served for 30 years in national security policy roles in the US Government and worked directly for three presidents. He is the host of the Future State Podcast and co-author of The Fifth Domain: Defending Our Country, Our Companies, and Ourselves in the Age of Cyber Threats. ✍️ Full show notes and worksheet for this episode: https://jordanharbinger.com/240 📖 The Fifth Domain: Defending Our Country, Our Companies, and Ourselves in the Age of Cyber Threats by Richard A. Clarke and Robert K. Knake Buy on Amazon: https://geni.us/UaW3 Far from being a quaint, insulated contest between subterranean hackers trying hard to prove their l337ness to one another, cyberattacks are now being employed by nations (our own included) to pummel other nations with infrastructure-crippling precision more potent than our most devastating traditional weapons. In some ways it's a leveler -- after all, who needs a nuclear missile program when you can attack your enemy anonymously from the other side of the world via a scruples-devoid mercenary working from a laptop? In this episode we talk to Richard Clarke, who served for thirty years in national security policy roles in the US government, and finally for an unprecedented decade of continuous service for three presidents in the White House. He's the host of the Future State Podcast and co-author of The Fifth Domain: Defending Our Country, Our Companies, and Ourselves in the Age of Cyber Threats, and his message should give you a realistic overview of how 21st century warfare is evolving in unexpected ways. What We Discuss with Richard Clarke: 💻 How we’re in constant low-grade cyber conflict with Russia, China, Iran, and other adversarial nation states — and the forms this can take. 💻 Cyber crime was a $600 billion industry (one percent of global GDP) in 2018, much of it perpetrated by rogue nations like North Korea. 💻 How cyberattacks can be (and have been) used to wreak physical damage on infrastructure, and why we should take them as seriously as traditional weaponry. 💻 Is it the government’s job to protect private companies against cyberattacks from foreign powers, or is it up to private companies to be responsible for their own safety? 💻 Why there’s a crisis-level shortage of cybersecurity expertise coming out of our country’s most serious tech schools, and where it’s being found instead. 💻 And much more… Subscribe to the Jordan Harbinger Show here: http://jordanharbinger.com/subscribe/ Follow Jordan and The Jordan Harbinger Show ___ Website: http://jordanharbinger.com/ Facebook: https://facebook.com/thejordanharbingershow/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/jordanharbinger/ LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/jordanharbinger/ Instagram: https://instagram.com/jordanharbinger/ Subscribe: http://jordanharbinger.com/subscribe/