Rutger Bregman is a Dutch historian, bestselling author, and the guy who went viral telling Davos billionaires to pay their taxes. In this conversation, we dig into the crisis of meaning pervading modern life: Why do so many of us feel like we’re wasting our potential? What’s behind the epidemic of “bullshit jobs”? What can the early abolitionists teach us about building pragmatic coalitions? And why might factory farming be the defining moral catastrophe future generations judge us for? READ MORE👉🏼http://bit.ly/richroll955 Fundraiser: Some conversations stay with you. This was one of them. I committed $25K to Rutger's organization's new US Food System Reform Program, a cause area that is deeply important to me. Through December 31st, every dollar to https://moralambition.org/food is matched. I hope you'll consider joining me today. Let's do something truly meaningful, together. ✌🏼🌱 – Rich This Episode Is Brought To You By… Bon Charge: Use coupon code RICHROLL20 to save 20%👉🏼https://bit.ly/boncharge2025 Roka: Unlock 20% OFF your order with code RICHROLL👉🏼https://bit.ly/ROKA2025 On: High-performance shoes & apparel crafted for comfort and style👉🏼https://bit.ly/ONXRRP2025 Squarespace: Use code RichRoll to save 10% off👉🏼https://bit.ly/squarespace2025 Check out all of the amazing discounts from our Sponsors 👉🏾 https://bit.ly/rrpsponsors LISTEN / SUBSCRIBE TO THE PODCAST Apple Podcasts: http://bit.ly/rrpitunes Spotify: http://bit.ly/rrpspotify Google: http://bit.ly/rrpgooglepods Meal Planner: http://meals.richroll.com Voicing Change Book: http://richroll.com/vc Clips Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/RichRollPodcastClips Newsletter: http://bit.ly/rollcallemail CONNECT WITH RICH ✩ Website - http://richroll.com ✩ Rich Roll Podcast - https://richroll.com/all-episodes/ ✩ Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/richroll/ ✩ Twitter - https://twitter.com/richroll ✩ Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/richrollfans ✩ Strava - https://www.strava.com/athletes/14443?oq=rich ✩ Memoir: Finding Ultra - https://www.richroll.com/shop/books/finding-ultra/ ✩ Meals - http://meals.richroll.com ✩ Cook - The Plantpower Way - https://www.richroll.com/shop/books/the-plantpower-way-signed/ ✩ Italian! - The Plantpower Way: Italia - https://www.richroll.com/shop/books/the-plantpower-way-italia-signed/ ✩ Support - https://www.patreon.com/richroll Thanks To The Team: Jason Camiolo, Dan Drake, Morgan McRae, Blake Curtis, Desmond Loh * * * * * NEW TO RICH? Hi I'm Rich Roll. I'm a vegan ultra-endurance athlete, author, podcaster, public speaker & wellness evangelist. But mainly I'm a dad of four. If you want to know more, visit my website or check out these two the NY Times articles: http://bit.ly/otillonyt http://bit.ly/vegansglam I LOVE MAIL! SEND IT HERE: 2630 Conejo Spectrum St. Thousand Oaks, CA 91320 #richroll #richrollpodcast