What really happened on October 7th? What does it reveal about Israel, Hamas, the West—and the future of civilization? In this gripping and deeply disturbing conversation, Dr. Jordan B. Peterson speaks with author and journalist Douglas Murray about his newest book, "On Democracies and Death Cults: Israel and the Future of Civilization." Together, they walk through the harrowing details of the Hamas invasion of Israel, the unprecedented October 7th terrorist attacks, and the shocking moral inversion that followed in Western media, academia, and public discourse. Douglas Murray is a journalist and bestselling author of 7 books. His latest publication is the international bestseller, The War On The West. His previous book, The Madness of Crowds, was a bestseller and ‘book of the year’ for The Times and The Sunday Times. The Strange Death of Europe: Immigration, Identity, Islam, published in 2017, spent almost 20 weeks on The Sunday Times bestseller list and was a number 1 bestseller in non-fiction. Mr. Murray has been a contributor to The Spectator since 2000 and has been associate editor at the magazine since 2012. He is a columnist for The New York Post, The Free Press, The Sun, The Telegraph, and contributes regularly to National Review and numerous other outlets. This episode was filmed on May 2nd, 2025. Unlock the ad-free experience of The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast and dive into exclusive bonus content on DailyWire+. Start watching now: http://dwpluspeterson.com/yt ALL LINKS: https://feedlink.io/jordanbpeterson | Sponsors | Being a parent is the hardest thing you’ll ever do—and the most important. In this new 4-part DailyWire+ series, Dr. Jordan B. Peterson delivers decades of wisdom to help you raise children who are strong, resilient, and morally grounded. Parenting premieres May 25. Only on DailyWire+ https://dwplus.watch/parenting Fatty 15: Get an additional 15% off your 90-day subscription Starter Kit at https://fatty15.com/PETERSON and using code PETERSON at checkout. Trust & Will: Protect what matters most in minutes at https://trustandwill.com/PETERSON and get 20% off. | Links | For Douglas Murray: Douglas’s latest book, “On Democracies and Death Cults: Israel and the Future of Civilization” https://a.co/d/fjx85qB “The War on the West” https://www.amazon.com/War-West-Douglas-Murray/dp/0063162024 On X https://x.com/DouglasKMurray?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor On Instagram https://www.instagram.com/douglaskmurray/?hl=en On Facebook https://www.facebook.com/DouglasKMurrayOfficial/ On YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@douglasmurray | Chapters | (0:00) Coming up (0:56) Intro (2:53) What really happened on October 7th (12:36) How Gaza’s leaders spent billions in international aid (19:01) The near impossibility of combatting a death cult (30:52) How the world turned on Israel—the moral fall of academia (40:56) Ivy-League students have become self loathing useful idiots (48:53) The banality of evil, the psychology behind the worship of death (1:04:16) What Murray saw in Gaza—how to radicalize two million civilians (1:14:55) There is an answer to the death cults (1:27:39) The precondition of Zion Disclaimer: This video includes information, descriptions, video, and images meant to give important context to viewers. By including this context, the overlaid commentary, criticism, and analysis is able to serve the public's interest in the discussed subject matter. Pairing the appropriate context with the included commentary allows the video to: (i) educate viewers; and (ii) document newsworthy events or other matters of public interest. To the greatest extent possible, the included commentary is intended to: (a) accurately identify the involved parties; (b) describe the subject matter in detail; (c) clearly articulate condemnation and criticism of the subject behavior while including an opposing view; and (d) to discourage viewers from engaging in the subject behavior. // LINKS // Peterson Academy https://petersonacademy.com ARC https://www.arcforum.com Books - https://www.jordanbpeterson.com/books/ #JordanPeterson #JordanBPeterson #DrJordanPeterson #DrJordanBPeterson #dailywireplus Ep. 0546