AI companies want all the data, everywhere, to make their models bigger and better. That means a lot of questions about piracy and copyright, and at least in one case it means Anthropic systematically destroying countless books just to feed them to the model. The Washington Post’s Will Oremus joins the show to explain how that worked, why Anthropic, Meta, OpenAI and others are doing it, and what the law has to say. Then, Puck’s Julia Alexander helps David figure out whether Netflix is serious about showing movies in theaters, and what theaters need to do to survive in the entertainment business going forward. 00:00 Phone Shopping Dilemma 02:26 AI Training Controversies 03:33 Interview with Will Oremus on AI and Books 05:54 Legal and Ethical Implications of AI Training 34:07 Netflix and the Future of Movie Theaters 47:09 The Future of Short-Form Content in Theaters 48:56 The Social Capital of Theatrical Experiences 56:02 The Role of Nostalgia in Movie Theaters 01:00:07 The Impact of Streaming on Theatrical Releases 01:06:59 The Challenges of Smart Home Integration 01:07:26 IKEA’s Smart Home Devices: A Deep Dive 01:19:34 The Frustrations of Thread Network Connectivity 01:25:21 Final Thoughts Subscribe: http://goo.gl/G5RXGs Like The Verge on Facebook: https://goo.gl/2P1aGc Follow on Twitter: https://goo.gl/XTWX61 Follow on Instagram: https://goo.gl/7ZeLvX Follow on TikTok: http://bit.ly/42VeCVU Watch The Vergecast on YouTube: https://bit.ly/40RFRkg The Vergecast Podcast: https://bit.ly/3WQDexZ Decoder with Nilay Patel: http://apple.co/3v29nDc More about our podcasts: https://www.theverge.com/podcasts Read More: http://www.theverge.com Community guidelines: http://bit.ly/2D0hlAv Wallpapers from The Verge: https://bit.ly/2xQXYJr Shop our Verge merch store here: https://bit.ly/4kPCmEc Subscribe to The Verge: https://bit.ly/3FT6n5S Subscribe to The Vergecast on YouTube, new episodes on Tuesday and Friday: https://bit.ly/3I6nJtz If you buy something from a Verge link, Vox Media may receive a commission without exerting any influence on editorial content. For more information about our ethics policy, visit: https://www.theverge.com/ethics-state...