SPONSORS: 1) GHOSTBED: Visit https://GhostBed.com/julian and use promo code JULIAN for an extra 10% off sitewide, plus $250 off mattress bundles. JOIN PATREON FOR EARLY UNCENSORED EPISODE RELEASES: https://www.patreon.com/JulianDorey CLIPPERS DISCORD: https://discord.gg/8QmWEKJ3BT NEWSLETTER: https://juliandoreypodcast.beehiiv.com/get-julians-top-10-books (***TIMESTAMPS in Description Below) ~ Matt Bocchi & David Ferrugio lost both of their fathers in the Twin Towers on September 11th, 2011. MATT's LINKS: - IG: https://www.instagram.com/mattyboch/?hl=en - BOOK: https://a.co/d/04URASms DAVID's LINKS: - YT: @deadtalkspodcast - IG: https://www.instagram.com/deadtalkspodcast/?hl=en - BOOK: https://a.co/d/01OO4vkJ FOLLOW JULIAN DOREY IG: https://www.instagram.com/julianddorey/ X: https://x.com/juliandorey JULIAN YT CHANNELS - SUBSCRIBE to Julian Dorey Clips YT: https://www.youtube.com/@juliandoreyclips - SUBSCRIBE to Julian Dorey Daily YT: https://www.youtube.com/@JulianDoreyDaily - SUBSCRIBE to Best of JDP: https://www.youtube.com/@bestofJDP LISTEN to Julian Dorey Podcast Spotify ▶ https://open.spotify.com/show/5skaSpDzq94Kh16so3c0uz Apple ▶ https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/trendifier-with-julian-dorey/id1531416289 ****TIMESTAMPS**** 00:00 - 25th Anniversary of 9/11, Matt Bocchi’s story of that day 13:37 - The Horror of the WTC that day, Matt on seeing family that day, Dad identified 24:44 - David’s story on 9/11 35:14 - Matt meets Medical Examiner at 9/11 Memorial, Hard to remember his father 48:33 - How David talked about 9/11 w/ family afterwards, Still a Mystery 25 years later 1:01:06 - Matt’s Mom, Al-Qaeda, Bin Laden, Conspiracy Theories 1:10:27 - “The Looming Tower,” HERO: Welles Crowther, September 12th unity 1:20:07 - David’s sister’s heart-breaking plea, Matt married w/ son today 1:29:09 - David’s Guilty Feelings, The year after 9/11, “Worth” movie 1:38:33 - Dealing w/ Death, Post-9/11 Matt’s Uncle begins S*****y Abusing Matt 1:48:30 - Why Matt came forward about his abuse, Uncle sent to prison 2:00:09 - The awful things that occurred, Matt turns to dr*gs to cope 2:14:07 - Matt’s years of addiction, crime & close calls (STORIES) 2:35:14 - Matt fails test at Probation, Matt breaks and finally gets clean 2:44:20 - 9/11 Commission, The Saudis, LIV Golf 2:53:09 - The Saudi Coverup Exposed (Omar al-Bayoumi Video), Epstein & the Saudis 2:58:19 - 9/11’s Redacted 28 Pages, The 5 Dancers on 9/11, JFK Part 2 3:04:54 - 9/11 “Closure” & Grief 3:14:38 - Matt & David’s Work CREDITS: - Host, Editor & Producer: Julian Dorey - COO, Producer & Editor: Alessi Allaman - https://www.youtube.com/@UCyLKzv5fKxGmVQg3cMJJzyQ - In-Studio Producer: Joey Deef Julian Dorey Podcast Episode 474 - Matt Bocchi & David Ferrugio Music by Artlist.io