The episode where Pat tries (and fails) to not be mean. This one is about Cindy Jacobs and other supposed "prophets" and spiritual warriors who ended up supporting Trump all the way through January 6th and beyond. Dave Johnson and Pat Kahnke discuss Chapter 3 of Matthew Taylor's outstanding book "The Violent Take it by Force: The Christian Movement that's threatening our democracy." Pat Kahnke's books are available on Amazon: "A Christian Case Against Donald Trump" (2024): https://a.co/d/iVSTqny "MAGA Seduction: Resisting the Debasement of the Christian Conscience" (2020): https://a.co/d/1KNX3uQ Dave Johnson's books are also available on Amazon, including "The Subtle Power of Spiritual Abuse": https://a.co/d/d17eDNy