Ramit Sethi of I Will Teach You To Be Rich talks to Lashan (50) and David (49) who have been married for nearly two decades, raising three children and building stable government careers. But when health complications and a sudden return-to-office mandate pressured Lashan into early retirement, their income dropped. Suddenly, $5,000 a month seems to vanish into thin air. Lashan, meticulous and controlling with money, carries the full weight of their financial future, while David remains passive and supportive from the sidelines. But the stakes are high: a mortgage, looming college costs, and the urgency to create meaningful memories while Lashan still can. Can Ramit help them uncover where the money is going, build a roadmap for the future, and finally get David to step up as a true financial partner? In this episode we uncover: * Why Lashan was pressured into early retirement * How $5,000 a month in “guilt-free spending” keeps disappearing * How David’s childhood scarcity shaped his urge to spend money now * Evictions and shut-off notices from Lashan’s childhood have driven her obsession with control and bill paying * Why David earned the “ignorant reassurer” label * How compartmentalizing her terminal diagnosis keeps Lashan focused on bills instead of her deepest fears * Ramit’s challenge to flip their money roles * The invisible financial work Lashan handles that David barely sees * Why paying bills feels like love and safety for Lashan * How Lashan ended up caring for everyone else but not herself ⏩ CHAPTERS (00:00:00) “I’ve cried more about leaving my job than my diagnosis” (00:19:25) Ramit breaks down their numbers (00:38:02) “Eviction notices… the electricity might be off” (00:46:32) “I’m going to die… and I can’t do this all alone” (01:10:44) Redefining what family memories look like (01:20:28) Paying off debt isn’t enough—planning for life after (01:28:23) “I feel like I see the possibility for joy and fun” (01:36:01) Where are they now? Lashan and David’s follow-ups 💡 RAMIT’S PODCAST NEWSLETTER * I share new ways to think about money every Saturday. Get the emails here: https://iwt.com/podcastnewsletter 🙌 GET HELP FROM RAMIT SETHI * Order my new book: Money for Couples: https://iwt.com/moneyforcouples * Take control of your money with the Conscious Spending Plan: https://iwt.com/csp * Optimize your credit cards with the 1st chapter of my book: https://iwt.com/chapter1-pod * Join my Money Coaching program for monthly help: https://iwt.com/moneycoaching * Listen to my book—now on Audible: https://amzn.to/48zko28 * Get tickets for my next live events—September 14 in Atlanta and September 26 in Los Angeles—at https://iwt.com/events 🤳 CONNECT WITH RAMIT SETHI * Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ramit/ * X: https://twitter.com/ramit ✅ SUBSCRIBE SO YOU DON’T MISS ANY EPISODES https://youtube.com/user/ramitsethi/featured/ If you and your partner have a money issue and you want my help, I occasionally select a couple to work with, free of charge. Apply for my help here: https://iwt.com/apply