Steven Rinella talks with Randall Williams. Topics discussed: A fascinating period in our history; all about hunting hides; and our new audio original "MeatEater's American History: Hide Hunters." Steve on Instagram and Twitter MeatEater on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube Check out the gear the MeatEater Crew uses in the field here: https://store.themeateater.com Follow us: Web: https://www.themeateater.com Instagram: https://instagram.com/meateater Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/StevenRinellaMeatEater Chapters: 00:00 - Introduction: Hide Hunters Volume 3 05:00 - Bob Cratchit and Christmas Carol Casting 12:30 - Interviews with a Black Bear Concept 17:22 - Still Hunting vs Dog Hunting Debate 22:49 - The Depuyer: Sacred Buffalo Fat 28:53 - Long Hunters, Mountain Men, and Market Hunting Eras 35:41 - Daniel Boone's Real Job 42:17 - Why Hide Hunters Aren't Heroes 48:28 - Civil War's 700,000 Dead Created Buffalo Hunters 58:11 - Frank Mayer: 104 Years From Gettysburg to Corvettes 1:05:37 - Siphon Migration and Outfit Hierarchies 1:15:43 - The Leather Belt Revolution Nobody Talks About 1:28:52 - The Myth of Revolutionary Buffalo Tanning 1:36:14 - Native American Robe Trade vs Hide Hunting Scale 1:43:29 - The Meat Waste Paradox 1:52:08 - Mop Harvesting: When Hair Slips Mean Money 1:58:31 - Deadly Buffalo Encounters and Strange Deaths 2:02:15 - Conclusion and What's Next