In an escalation of the conflict between Ethan Klein and Hasan Piker, Ethan Klein decides to finally have his conversation with Sam Seder. Previously, Hasan wanted Ethan to talk to Sam Seder, and Sam wanted to stay out of it. Now, Ethan has his conversation with Sam Seder, and things get out of hand in an unexpected way. Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/lonerbox Twitter: https://twitter.com/BoxLoner Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/lonerbox​ Discord: https://discord.gg/Y5hFCzPqGH Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/lonerbox/ Research notes: https://publish.obsidian.md/lonerbox Become a Member: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPhY6C7nQd43YJEmJOqxm9g/join Donate Directly to Loner: https://paypal.me/lonerbox TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 - Intro 1:00 - Video Start 4:00 - Hasan reached out to Sam Seder... And misrepresented things. 12:11 - Maybe making this about Hasan specifically, rather than the group isn't the best idea. 15:30 - Sam Seder talks about the personal aspects of the Hasan / Ethan Klein rift. 16:33 - Ethan Klein's position right after October 7th. 20:45 - Israel does care about what America thinks, and Israelis are in favor of ending the war. 27:48 - Antisemitism is real, according to Sam Seder. 28:45 - FBI stats show that antisemitism has gone up significantly since October 7th. 31:45 - Why don't Israelis care about Palestinians? 33:05 - Oppressor vs. Oppressed dynamics 38:18 - People who have been more oppressed have come up with better strategies. 41:50 - Zionism was full of unethical practices, but what would have happened if there had been no Israel? 46:33 - Israelis are feeling radicalized since October 7th, and understandably so. 53:46 - Lonerbox fact checks Sam Seder. 58:34 - Lonerbox explains the various aid situations in the Israel-Gaza conflict. 1:06:52 - Sam Seder says, "It was obvious that Trump would be worse, BUT..." 1:08:51 - If Hasan's statements were defensible, why wouldn't you just defend them? 1:09:55 - Hasan's spicy clip 1:14:00 - "That type of conflation is so dangerous..." - Lonerbox responds to Sam Seder's point about conflation 1:30:36 - Dehumanizing language is dangerous. 1:40:30 - Sam Seder invokes the ANC and Nelson Mandela. 1:44:43 - There have been groups that have gone through a lot more pain than Hamas did and DIDN'T DO October 7th. 1:55:10 - Sam Seder doesn't know anything about the ANC? 1:59:35 - The March of Return 2:15:23 - Lonerbox believes that the war should have ended a long time ago. 2:30:08 - Why wouldn't you expect Israel to react the way they did? If you think they are as bad as you say, why wouldn't you expect that? 2:40:00 - What does Sam Seder think about Hamas's failure to their own people? (Bomb shelters) 2:44:30 - What should have Israel done on October 8th? 2:55:10 - Israel should have taken Hamas more seriously 3:08:43 - The Great March of Return 3:09:23 - WHAT peace partners?! 3:19:23 - Militants were trying to cross the border 3:25:40 - All of these wars were televised 3:31:49 - Protesters in Tel Aviv 3:34:00 - In Sam Seder's world, what does he think Hamas is? 3:39:15 - It all goes back to oppressors vs oppressed in Sam's world 3:41:36 - Unilateral cessation of partnership with Israel probably won't work. #ethanklein #samseder #hasanabi #lonerbox