Dive deeper into the captivating story of Bill and Amanda Reel as they embark on the second part of their remarkable journey. We explore their gripping encounters with church authorities, their disillusionment with Mormonism's truth claims, and their courageous decision to become whistleblowers within the faith. Discover the challenges they faced, including the lack of safety to be honest and the harm caused by the Mormon Church. Bill gives insight into the world of Mormon apologists and their ethics, as well as the transformative power of real authenticity when you can leave behind the burden of inauthenticity. Explore the shifting landscape of progressive Mormonism and the ultimate question of whether the Church's good outweighs its flaws. Prepare to be captivated by this thought-provoking exploration of faith, honesty, and the personal sacrifices made in pursuit of truth and freedom. Donate to @MormonDiscussion : https://mormondiscussionpodcast.org/please-consider-donating-today/ Website: https://mormondiscussions.org/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@mormondiscussion Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Mormondiscussion/ Episode Show Notes: https://www.mormonstories.org/podcast/the-making-of-bill-amanda-reel Chapters: 00:00:00 Beginning 00:06:00 Conversations with Mormon Apostle Jeffrey R. Holland & Church Historian Marlin Jensen 00:20:00 Invited to come to Utah and move in early 2015 00:26:45 Bill attempts to tackle the CES Letter, gives up 00:28:00 Trouble in the Utah ward builds 00:43:15 Exclusion policy is the death blow to Bill’s testimony 00:48:00 Bill publishes “Liar Liar Pants on Fire” episode 00:57:30 Analyzing Mormon apologists 01:43:00 The excommunication of Bill Reel. “I win” 01:45:00 Pros and Cons of advocacy 01:56:00 Bill’s reasons for concluding the Mormon church isn’t true 02:29:30 Summary of Mormon church truth claims, the absurdity of Mormonism 02:32:30 Wins and losses when “graduating” from Mormonism ___________________ At Mormon Stories we explore, celebrate, and challenge Mormon culture through in-depth stories told by members and former members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as well as scholars, authors, LDS apologists, and other professionals. Our overall mission is to: 1. Facilitate informed consent amongst LDS Church members, investigators, and non-members regarding Mormon history, doctrine, and theology 2. Support Mormons (and members of other high-demand religions) who are experiencing a religious faith crisis 3. Promote healing, growth and community for those who choose to leave the LDS Church or other high demand religions 🤝Help us continue to deliver quality content by becoming a donor today One-time or recurring donations: https://donorbox.org/mormon-stories?default_interval=m Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/mormonstories Our Platforms: 🌐Mormon Stories Blog: https://www.mormonstories.org/episodes 🎙️Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/mormonstories ✳️Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4sDzk7dRjODTSEqzZKZJzk?si=148b0efc1ccc4404&nd=1 🍎Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/mormon-stories-lds/id312094772 🖼️Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mormstories 📱TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@mormonstoriespodcast 🎮Discord: https://discord.com/invite/kuX5p6yyjF Contact us: 📧 MormonStories@gmail.com 📬PO Box 171085, Salt Lake City, UT 84117 #MormonStories #Mormon #lds