Primatologist Isabel Behncke — What We Can Learn from Bonobos and Chimpanzees, Lessons from Sex and Play, Walking 3,000 Kilometers Through The Heart of Darkness, The Ape and the Sushi Master, and More | Brought to you by LMNT electrolyte supplement (http://drinklmnt.com/tim), Athletic Greens all-in-one nutritional supplement (http://athleticgreens.com/tim), and Headspace easy-to-use app with guided meditations (http://headspace.com/tim). Isabel Behncke (@IsabelBehncke) is a field primatologist and applied evolutionary ethologist who studies social behavior in animals (including humans) to understand our urgent challenges with each other and the planet. Show notes: https://tim.blog/2022/06/01/primatologist-isabel-behncke/ About Tim Ferriss: Tim Ferriss is one of Fast Company’s “Most Innovative Business People” and an early-stage tech investor/advisor in Uber, Facebook, Twitter, Shopify, Duolingo, Alibaba, and 50+ other companies. He is also the author of five #1 New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestsellers: The 4-Hour Workweek, The 4-Hour Body, The 4-Hour Chef, Tools of Titans and Tribe of Mentors. The Observer and other media have named him “the Oprah of audio” due to the influence of his podcast, The Tim Ferriss Show, which has exceeded 700 million downloads and been selected for “Best of Apple Podcasts” three years running. Connect with Tim Ferriss: Sign up for "5-Bullet Friday" (Tim's free weekly email newsletter): https://go.tim.blog/5-bullet-friday-yt/ Visit the Tim Ferriss PODCAST: https://tim.blog/podcast/ Visit the Tim Ferriss BLOG: https://tim.blog/ Follow Tim Ferriss on TWITTER: https://twitter.com/tferriss/ Follow Tim Ferriss on INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/timferriss/ Like Tim Ferriss on FACEBOOK: https://www.facebook.com/TimFerriss/ 00:00 Start 00:03:02 Baco and Jiro 00:08:04 What is an applied evolutionary ethologist? 00:10:54 Lorenz vs. Skinner 00:14:04 The brilliance of consilience 00:14:29 Humboldt vs. Darwin and the origins of evolutionary thinking 00:26:06 Recent revolutionary thoughts about evolution 00:31:34 Complexity and niche construction 00:37:09 What's more fun: a barrel of chimpanzees or a barrel of bonobos? 00:45:31 Chimpanzee geography 00:56:28 Magnificent bonobos 00:58:27 Female mammal problems and solutions 01:07:17 Sexual dimorphism 01:10:34 Avoiding naturalistic fallacies 01:12:13 How accurate is it to call the Congo the Heart of Darkness? 01:17:15 Why are the Japanese so interested in animal behavior? 01:20:37 Potato-washing monkeys 01:23:03 Why do breakthroughs seem to come in clusters? 01:28:06 Animals at play: the adaptive joker hypothesis 01:39:15 The overlap between flow states and play 01:42:06 What the natural world can teach humans about optimizing play 01:44:22 The everlasting tango between energy and time 01:48:02 Post-pandemic play 01:51:04 How much do we understand about the way animals communicate? 02:04:50 The drunken monkey hypothesis 02:06:27 Parting thoughts