Today we welcome Carl Hart. He is the Ziff Professor of Psychology in the Departments of Psychology and Psychiatry at Columbia University. He is known for his research on neuropsychopharmacology and his advocacy for the decriminalization of recreational drugs. Carl is the author of High Price and has co-authored the introductory textbook Drugs, Society, and Human Behavior with Charles Ksir. His most recent book is called Drug Use for Grown-Ups. In this episode, I talk to Carl Hart about drug use and addiction. Society is quick to judge all drug users as addicts but Carl’s research found that the majority of drug users do not meet the criteria for pathology. Recreational drugs, when used responsibly, can have positive effects on people.  Instead of waging a war on drugs, Carl advocates for laws that better regulate the production and sale of substances. We also touch on the topics of health, law, racism, cognition, and sociology. Website: drcarlhart.com Twitter: @drcarlhart Topics 02:32 Carl’s interest in neuropsychopharmacology 06:12 The brain disease model of addiction 11:22 Should we talk about drugs with kids? 13:47 Responsible drug use for grown-ups 17:08 Drugs in pursuit of happiness 22:54 The Harrison Narcotics Tax Act 29:28 Scott’s experience with edibles 33:21 Why we need drug checking facilities 37:01 The drug user tropes in media 41:59 Predictors of drug abuse and addiction 46:42 Drug overdose and safety 50:09 Personal responsibility in drug addiction 52:45 Our moralism is killing us 55:06 Coming out as a heroin user 57:52 Bob Marley and James Baldwin Subscribe to The Psychology Podcast: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/psychology-podcast-dr.-scott/id942777522 https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/the-psychology-podcast-with-scott-barry-kaufman/the-psychology-podcast-with-dr-scott-barry-kaufman?refid=stpr See past episodes and join in the Discussion: https://scottbarrykaufman.com/podcast/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thepsychologypodcast?ref=br_tf Twitter: https://twitter.com/psychpodcast #ThePsychologyPodcast