FULL EPISODE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZ4E0tAxy00 Subscribe Here: @JulianDoreyDaily --- Jesse Michels is a filmmaker podcaster and investor who has spent years at the intersection of Silicon Valley money and the most seriously documented questions about unidentified aerial phenomena. He has worked at Peter Thiel's family office. He has appeared on Joe Rogan. He has built one of the most credible and most rigorously sourced independent research platforms on the UFO question operating in the public sphere. And in this conversation with Julian Dorey he confronts the question that most UFO coverage either avoids or cannot answer: is the phenomenon alien technology DARPA weaponry or a psychological operation — and what does the documented evidence actually support? The alien technology versus DARPA weaponry thread is the episode's most practically significant analytical contribution. The UFO landscape contains a genuine and documented spectrum of possibilities — craft and phenomena that could represent non-human intelligence technology, could represent highly classified American or adversary military programs whose existence cannot be officially acknowledged, or could represent a deliberate combination of both in which genuine non-human phenomena are being used as cover for the development and deployment of technologies that could not otherwise be funded or tested without public scrutiny. Jesse Michels has investigated every branch of this spectrum and his assessment of what the evidence actually supports is one of the most carefully reasoned and most intellectually honest accounts of the UFO question available from someone with his level of access. The psyop war thread is the episode's most alarming and most urgently relevant dimension. The UFO disclosure conversation that has been happening in American media and politics since 2017 is not in Michels' assessment a straightforward government acknowledgment of a phenomenon it has been studying. It is a managed information environment in which multiple competing interests — military contractors intelligence agencies foreign adversaries and private capital — are all using the UFO question to advance specific agendas that have nothing to do with telling the public the truth about what is in the sky. The psyop war is happening right now. And understanding which disclosures are genuine and which are designed to shape public perception in specific directions is the most important analytical challenge facing anyone trying to understand the UFO phenomenon honestly. The Silicon Valley connection is the episode's most personally revealing dimension. Michels worked at Peter Thiel's fund — a position that gave him access to the conversations that the people with the most capital and the most government connections are having about UFOs artificial intelligence and the convergence of both. What Silicon Valley actually knows about the connection between non-human intelligence and the technologies being developed in classified American programs is significantly more developed and more alarming than what the public UFO disclosure conversation has yet acknowledged. **Inside This Clip:** - Whether UFOs represent alien technology DARPA weaponry or a deliberate combination of both - The documented connection between UFO sighting patterns and nuclear facilities and advanced weapons programs - What the psyop war around UFO disclosure actually is and why it is happening right now - How multiple competing interests are using the UFO question to advance specific agendas - What Jesse Michels found when he investigated the DARPA alien weaponry connection - Why UFO disclosure is maladaptive for some people — and what that reveals about how the information is managed - What Silicon Valley actually knows about non-human intelligence and classified technology programs - The Peter Thiel connection and what the conversations at that level of capital actually sound like - Why the most important UFO question is not whether the phenomenon is real but who controls the narrative around it - Jesse Michels' most complete and most honestly alarming assessment of where the UFO disclosure story actually stands This is the UFO conversation that goes past the sightings and the congressional hearings into the specific question of who is managing what you are being told — and why that question matters more than any individual sighting ever could. --- ***TIMESTAMPS*** @JulianDoreyDaily