WATCH FULL EPISODE: https://youtu.be/7pOT-VQT-vk Subscribe Here: @JulianDoreyDaily HEADLEY'S LINKS: - BUY BOOK: https://blownforgood.com/ - INSTAGRAM: ​​https://www.instagram.com/blownforgood - X: https://x.com/blownforgood - YT: https://www.youtube.com/blownforgood Newsletter: https://juliandoreypodcast.beehiiv.com/get-julians-top-10-books CLIPPERS DISCORD: https://discord.com/invite/8QmWEKJ3BT Marc and Claire Headley joined Scientology's Sea Org as teenagers and ended up working at Gold Base, the church's secretive international headquarters tucked away in the California desert. Marc spent years producing audio, video, and e-meter technology tied to some of Scientology's most high-profile members. Claire worked in roles that put her close to the organization's top leadership. Behind the gates, life inside the Sea Org meant long hours, minimal pay, strict surveillance, and a culture where leaving wasn't simply a matter of quitting. Marc and Claire talk openly about the conditions that pushed them toward the exits — and what it actually took to get out. Marc's escape involved driving off the property outright; Claire followed later, navigating her own way past an organization built to keep people in. Getting out came with a cost. Family members who remained in the church were bound by Scientology's disconnection policy, cutting off contact with anyone who left. Marc later wrote about the experience in his book "Blown for Good," and the two have spent years since speaking publicly about what they saw and lived through inside one of the most controversial organizations in the country. This episode covers how they got in, what kept them there for as long as it did, and the moment each of them finally decided to run. Julian Dorey Podcast sits down with Marc and Claire Headley for the full story. @JulianDoreyDaily ***TIMESTAMPS*** 0:00 Forced abortions inside Sea Org 14:00 January 2005 planning the escape 23:06 The motorcycle escape & the chase 36:48 Rebuilding his dad's computer business 50:53 Plotting Claire's breakout alone