Today's episode features a conversation with author Nick Collins concerning the obscure origins of the Mesopotamian "Cradle of Civilization." Collins points to a shared origin of Sumer and the Indus Valley Civilization, painting a picture of an interconnected culture connected by maritime trade. We discuss the rising of the oceans at the dawn of city-states, drowned coastlines, seafaring refugees, the historicity of mythological texts, and missing evidence waiting underwater off India's coast. Nick's book (support us both with this link): https://link.amazon/B0djOdJe0 PATREON https://www.patreon.com/c/demystifysci OUR BOOK, PARADOX LOST: https://demystifysci.com/paradoxlost SECRETARY OF NATURE : Vinyl: https://demystifysci-shop.fourthwall.com/products/vinyl-lp-secretary-of-nature-everything-is-so-good-here Download: https://secretaryofnature.bandcamp.com/album/everything-is-so-good-here YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJ0Sp-n7p7uLefsRjAMGQPQ Stream: Everywhere! PARADIGM DRIFT https://demystifysci.com/paradigm-drift-show #Mesopotamia #IndusValleyCivilization #history MERCH: Rock some DemystifySci gear : https://demystifysci-shop.fourthwall.com/ AMAZON: Do your shopping through this link: https://amzn.to/3YyoT98 DONATE: https://bit.ly/3wkPqaD SUBSTACK: https://substack.com/@UCqV4_7i9h1_V7hY48eZZSLw@demystifysci RSS: https://anchor.fm/s/2be66934/podcast/rss MAILING LIST: https://bit.ly/3v3kz2S SOCIAL: - Discord: https://discord.gg/MJzKT8CQub - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/DemystifySci - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/DemystifySci/ - Twitter: https://twitter.com/DemystifySci MUSIC: -Shilo Delay: https://g.co/kgs/oty671