Fresh off the back of performing American Boy with Usher at the 02, Grammy Award-winning artist Estelle joins Paul for an unfiltered conversation about music, identity, and the power of self-belief. From growing up in West London to becoming the first artist to be signed by John Legend, Estelle shares the resilience it took to break into the music industry - and the self-trust she had to develop along the way. She tells the incredible story of how a chance encounter with Kanye West in a chicken shop led to the global smash hit American Boy. Estelle reflects on the personal losses that shaped her, the industry rejection she pushed through, and how she’s finally learned to trust her voice - both in music and in life. This is the real story behind American Boy - and so much more. Follow me here: https://www.instagram.com/needtotalk https://www.tiktok.com/@weneedtotalkpod Follow Estelle here: YouTube @EstelleDarlings Instagram - https://g2ul0.app.link/YBqxXz8ThSb TikTok - https://g2ul0.app.link/CQK5GJbUhSb Sponsored by: Shopify: www.shopify.co.uk/needtotalk Tinder: https://tinder.com/en-GB