Ocean Vuong is one of the most esteemed poets and novelists in America today. He joined David Marchese to discuss his life and how he became a writer, in what David said is "one of the most emotionally intense interviews I’ve ever done." You can listen to it here. For more on Vuong, including photographs from his life, visit: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/03/magazine/ocean-vuong-interview.html Subscribe to NYT Audio: https://bit.ly/3Qz3GZu Download the NYT App: https://bit.ly/4gZdoip Watch more @NYTPodcasts #TheInterview