This week, Marques and David talk with Hugo Barra about his blog post where he makes a number of points and observations about the Apple Vision Pro and the state of VR in general. There's a lot to get into! Enjoy! Chapters 00:00 Intro 01:20 Hugo Barra Chat 06:39 Why the Apple Vision Pro is so Important 16:18 Hugo's Hot Takes 20:38 Shopify (Sponsored) 21:48 Netsuite (Sponsored) 22:52 The Best Thing to Happen to Meta 29:29 Was the External Battery Intentional? 36:55 Full Immersion in VR 46:41 Gigabyte (Sponsored) 48:56 Apple's Marketing of the Apple Vision Pro 01:05:44 A Race to Z with Hugo Barra 01:08:58 Outro Links: Hugo's Blog Post: https://bit.ly/4cYlEhS Hugo hired by Facebook: https://bit.ly/4azeBur Verge Oculus Rift review: https://bit.ly/3W20Obw Piano Vision: https://bit.ly/3Q3nap7 Karl Guttag: https://bit.ly/3VZu4iQ DisneyQuest Paper: https://bit.ly/49yIREo Shop products mentioned: Apple Vision Pro: https://geni.us/po94 Meta Quest 3: https://geni.us/SUUuw Shop the merch: https://shop.mkbhd.com Socials: Waveform: https://twitter.com/WVFRM Waveform: https://www.threads.net/@waveformpodcast Marques: https://www.threads.net/@mkbhd Andrew: https://www.threads.net/@andrew_manganelli David Imel: https://www.threads.net/@davidimel Adam: https://www.threads.net/@parmesanpapi17 Ellis: https://twitter.com/EllisRovin TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@waveformpodcast Join the Discord: https://discord.gg/mkbhd Music by 20syl: https://bit.ly/2S53xlC Waveform is part of the Vox Media Podcast Network.