In this week's episode of WSJ’s Take On the Week, co-hosts Telis Demos and Miriam Gottfried break down the conversation around AI safety and development, and how markets have reacted. Plus, OpenAI is now expected to have its initial public offering next year instead of this year. Will Anthropic follow suit? They also analyze the Federal Reserve's recent unanimous decision to hike interest rates, the mechanical impact of 10-year Treasury yields crossing 5%, and how these macroeconomic shifts are reshaping the bond market. Next, Jefferies equity analyst Jon Petersen joins the show to explain how rising interest rates and limited supply are impacting real estate investment trusts (REITs). They also discuss the impact of AI on the sector. Are companies like Digital Realty and Equinix poised to fare well in the data center buildout? What about industrial REITs like Prologis and Stag Industrial? Plus, Petersen breaks down why the REIT sector could be a healthy safe haven for investors if the AI bubble bursts. News Corp, owner of The Wall Street Journal, has a content-licensing partnership with OpenAI. Chapters: 2:20 — AI Safety Debate and Market Reaction 4:42 — The Fed’s Interest Rate Hike 6:49 — Oil Prices, Bond Yields, and the Fed's Balancing Act 10:42 — How Interest Rates Drive Real Estate Values 13:34 — Senior Housing REITs 15:48 — Logistics and Warehouses Post-Pandemic 19:06 — The Big Mall Comeback 21:11 — Data Center REITs vs. AI 26:33 — Data Center Stocks 28:44 — Are REITs a Defensive Play? 32:38 — Index vs. Stock Picking This is WSJ’s Take On the Week where co-hosts Telis Demos, writer for WSJ’s Heard on the Street, and Miriam Gottfried, WSJ’s investing and wealth management reporter, cut through the noise and dive into markets, the economy and finance—the big trades, key players and business news ahead. Have an idea for a future guest or episode? How can we better help you take on the week? We’d love to hear from you. Email the show at takeontheweek@wsj.com. 🎧 Prefer just the audio version? Subscribe and listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music, or wherever you get your podcasts: https://on.wsj.com/3LBGo5Q?mod=WSJ_TOTWPOD #WSJ #REITS #AI