He asserts that the relationship is not real and that Victor is likely manipulating Josie for a green card.

“if the man if the man loves you he will get the money together and he will come and see you he's using you to get a green card in my opinion”

He denies ever having scammed a woman in his life.

“I have a little past I have a past in my life of ship how many women have you scammed no never I've never sced any woman in my life I have never done that I will not do that”

She believes that Victor's feelings for her are genuine and that he is not a scammer.

“I do believe him in a lot of the stories that we've done that have actually turned out to be scams where the women have been catfished you've watched that at home sitting in your chair on the couch shaking your head yelling at the scream woman wake up right yes what do you say to yourself when you'r”

He believes that Victor is manipulating his mother to obtain money and is a danger to her safety.

“I think he probably wants to money or he probably want money I have no money probably wants to come over here if my mom went to Nigeria she could get kidnapped she could get raped somebody could Rob her”