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Aggressive regulatory and tax policies that drive domestic oil refineries out of state inevitably lead to higher fuel costs for consumers.

“If we continue to drive refineries out of California, gas prices will sore and disproportionately affect those who can least afford it.”

PBD Podcast · May 2025 · 1 episode · 503K views on this topic

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