Animal agriculture is inherently unsustainable, and the best way to improve biodiversity and sequester carbon is to transition to plant-based food systems and rewild the land.

“So what we need to do is work out how we can maximize biodiversity gains. So when we look at animal agriculture and we look at it globally, it uses 76%, sorry, it uses 83% of all agricultural land. So over 4/5 of agricultural land is used to graze animals. Now, if we switched to a plant-based diets,”

True environmental sustainability is not possible if the global poor are forced to endure extreme economic hardship and energy poverty.

“we the world needs to come out of energy poverty it needs to come out of economic poverty so that we can all begin to there will always be disparity in wealth but we can all begin to function at basic what we would consider basic human levels now”

Deliberate economic degrowth is not a politically feasible or morally acceptable solution to climate change given the need for developing nations to escape poverty.

“My thoughts are you cannot do degrowth at a global level because you would leave billions of people in poverty and that's to me just morally unacceptable and you just won't achieve it, right?”