The fracturing on the right is primarily driven by commentators seeking clickbait rather than genuine ideological disagreements.

“The through line isn't really just someone's extreme or someone's old guard. The through line is clickbait. The through line is you have a lot of people who have taken both sides of every issue so that they're kind of on they kind of can't be attacked and your position is indefensible.”

Disagreements and infighting within the conservative coalition are beneficial because they refine the movement's ideas.

“The point is here, Piers, is that the reason why it's messy is by design. It's good. These are the good These are Iron sharpens iron, the scripture says. It's important to train, and it's important to spar, and it's And I just came from UFC. I mean, those guys the fighters need to have other fighter”

The perceived split in the MAGA movement is actually a small group of contrarians seeking attention rather than a substantive ideological divide.

“I think that's giving one side way too much credit. I mean, there's a lot of adults talking in the room and there's a there's a toddler or two screaming in the corner begging for attention. That's really what the split is.”

Republicans should resolve their internal conflicts and prioritize their shared values to focus on fighting their political opponents.

“I feel much more united with the people who are here and the people who are fighting the same demons we are than I do divided from people who are having a minor spat right now over yes it's Israel but we're going to get past it. We are it's dividing the Republican right. We'll get through it.”