Monthly episodes discussing this topic, 2021-09 to 2023-12.
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Joe Budden views his podcasting career as his most significant career pivot and a more impactful contribution to the hip-hop community than his music.
“I'd say the podcast probably easily easily it touches too many people plenty of people that wouldn't be attracted to my rhyming style or my voice or my Cadence or just anything right but in podcas and you just attract such a wider net”
The Pivot Podcast · Dec 2023 · 1 episode · 226K views on this topicHe believes that when it comes to live show lineups, the best performers should be saved for last to keep the audience engaged.
“if you want the standing o you put the big boys last if you want to keep the crowd wanting more you kept the big boys last”
ShxtsnGigs Podcast · Sep 2021 · 1 episode · 150K views on this topicHe thinks that one should avoid self-congratulation and instead focus on continuous improvement and achieving the next set of goals.
“i don't like to self-congratulate either so i just look to just keep it stepping you always want to improve your zone yeah yeah yeah well whatever we achieve now it's never going to be good enough you're always looking at the next thing”
ShxtsnGigs Podcast · Sep 2021 · 1 episode · 150K views on this topicPositions are extracted from transcripts by a model and may misattribute who said what. Every quote links to the episode it came from.