Taylor believes that Steve's failure to make professional progress after eight years is a serious issue that demands change.

“I think I've been denying for a long time the fact that this is just like a crazy situation that my husband hasn't been working for basically 8 years”

Steven acknowledges that his lack of consistent professional effort over the last eight years is a problem that requires him to make significant changes.

“I definitely feel like a change needs to be made like I'm 42 I'm not getting younger like if if I want to live a good life like a sustainable good life I definitely need to make some changes”